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Why flying stopped being glamorous

Phil Edwards | April 4, 2024
Why flying stopped being glamorous

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  1. @castlerock58

    April 4, 2024 at 11:39 am

    I would rather be able to watch movies at my seat than play Pong in a lounge. Sitting in a seat for eight hours is not that tough. The problem is shrinking the seats too much. When I was growing up, there were no fights over reclining your seat so you could sleep. Now there are due to jamming one more eats and the fact that more entitled jerks are flying who feel entitled to other people's space. In the 60's and early 70's, flying was limited to the upper middle class and the rich. They were more likely to have manners in public.

  2. @jpmtlhead39

    April 4, 2024 at 11:39 am

    Never understood and still don't understand where is the Glamour in Flying.
    Specialy if "you" ( like 99.9% of us mere mortals)have to be loocked with more 250 people inside a metal tube in a long haul flight with a 125kgs middle age women just beside you,that after 7 double cheese/ ketchup flavoured packs of cheetos and 2 Dr Peppers starts snoring like a V8 Biturbo and drooling on your shoulder..??!! Oh, and after 3.5 hours of this absolutely Horrendous torture "you" suddendly feel inside yourself " shit,i need to go to the toilete ASAP"and realize where you are,yes on the very glamorous window seat with an unconscious 125kgs double cheese/ketchup flavoured pack of cheetos and a 92 old man with severe joint arthitis on your way to Paradise…!!!🙏🤬😱😰😖😧😮😣🥵
    That is real Glamour,Right.
    Ps: sorry,i did forget abaut the 1st class Luxurious individual seats that turn into beds with 100 % privacy ( almost 🫣🙏😫😵🤢🤮😷).
    Yes,because after the lovely 58 years old full carrot color tan flight attendant says "have a good sleep and pleasant dreams" closes the my seat/cabin door/curtain,is when this very intense and lingering unmistakable unique Limburger cheese smell hits me like a real 50 kgs round Limburger cheese in my nostrils… exactly,my neighbor took of his shoes off for a nap.
    6 hours later,4 Alka Seltzer and a very sick stomach i heard " Ladies and Gentleman brace yourselfs,start prating because we gonna be hit by very severe turbulence,so if you need to call a loved one or ones just do it because…sorry,but Fasten Your Seatbelts Now".🙏😵😫🙊🙈🙉
    Oh yes,1st class is on another Level,the Smelly we all gonna die super Glamorous one.

  3. @parker73724

    April 4, 2024 at 11:39 am

    I think that despite the lack of luxury being because people want lower prices, I think there's a lot of people who would be willing to pay 25 percent more for 25 percent more room. Unfortunately that's not really an option and you have to choose to be in coach and literally be touching a stranger or pay a ridiculous amount for first class.

  4. @SydneyChandler

    April 4, 2024 at 11:39 am

    Flying is HELL. I mean an unmitigated HELL! I would gladly pay more for more comfort and a bit more glamour. I'm an 80s kid and flying was okay, but nothing like the experience of the 60's and to a degree, the 70s. I grew up in the wrong era.

  5. @tedoneilclark4710

    April 4, 2024 at 11:39 am

    I can remember in the early seventies my grans friend telling her not to bother with flights as they are now cramming people in like sardines with no space to manoeuvre ect. And that aviation has no future because of their greed 😄

  6. @norikkrikorian3366

    April 4, 2024 at 11:39 am

    It is not the price, but the culture and customs that have changed.
    We see people in first class carrying a ticket worth ten thousand dollars, but in normal clothes (T-shirts) and in an arrogant manner.

  7. @RovexHD

    April 4, 2024 at 11:39 am

    Indeed – flying is no longer luxurious, even so called ‘1st class’.

    Only trains offer ‘luxury travel’, but even that’s changing and has changed for the worse.

  8. @spruceg00se

    April 4, 2024 at 11:39 am

    Good video but I don’t think flying has got worse, we are now able to just go the budget option. You can still fly first, which would have been the equivalent of coach back then.

  9. @admiralbeez8143

    April 4, 2024 at 11:39 am

    We demand cheap prices, that’s how we got here. In 1988 I flew from Toronto to London and paid $800. That’s equal to about $2k today, but you can but fly to London for next to nothing.

  10. @andrewbennett7756

    April 4, 2024 at 11:39 am

    They let the animal in drinking fighting omg I'm glad I don't fly any more there no standard in the airlines with budget airline distrusting they used to have music while you were waiting to take off the last plane I flew was a DC8 And 707 and 747 cattle carts on wings

  11. @CharlesHarpolek4vud

    April 4, 2024 at 11:39 am

    The new and more accurate name for economy flying is "steerage"– crack in the back in a straight backed seat, you're feet contending with the storage seat luggage you had to Stow… I had my Thai wife and her two Thai daughters with me on a 30 hour flight from Bangkok to New York City. It helps that the ladies could talk to the cabin attendants in their own language.
    That trip showed me how uncomfortable a broken part of the total leg is… Wake up, drag yourself off, drag your belongings through the proper channels, and then hope you can get back on a plane to take you the other leg===== give me one long sleep inducing trip, I found so nice about that one flight.
    At the time at LAX, I had to go outside and walk about a mile pass the other two hangers to get to my departure second leg. I hope that unpleasantness has been put to bed somewhere.

  12. @beachbum4691

    April 4, 2024 at 11:39 am

    Beware, I was working as cabin-crew in the 1960s and 70s while I was learning to fly with the very subsidised "British Airways air-minded scheme", it was an age in which numbers of flight navigators and flight engineers were retraining as pilots as their jobs in the air were being automated……."just about everything was talked about in the media with regard the aircraft of the future" including bowling alleys on aircraft, but almost nothing of it happened, to keep seat journey prices as low as possible, tourist passengers were packed in like sardines just as they are now…I love nonsense and self-delusion but there has to be a place for common sense?…

  13. @jimlubinski4731

    April 4, 2024 at 11:39 am

    Interesting video and very informative. I worked for an airline and my parents worked for airlines. I finally had to leave when the "airline builder" and people like him took over. Quite frankly, I prefer some of the glamor. Prices went down with deregulation, but anybody at that time was able to start an airline. The whole think seemed to make flying more risky with so many fly by night (no pun intended) outfits entering the market. Now I find that the prices are no longer so low, and you can't depend on the "low cost" carriers for the best fares. I've found that the nickel and diming that goes on with the cheaper airlines can really add up, sometimes almost to a premium class seat on what I consider a real airline. I remember what it was like to work for an airline up to the early '90's and what the flight experience was. A lot of what has lead to flying being a chore can be attributed to corporate (especially executive) greed. As long as those at the top hit the lottery every month, it doesn't matter that the employees are now almost at minimum wage and the passengers are suffering. The prices have gone up dramatically in the past few years, so where is the bargain?

  14. @jmalmsten

    April 4, 2024 at 11:39 am

    It does make me wonder, when my bones physically can't fit the seats. Do they even want the passengers? I mean. I even started to fantisize about capsule hotel style refitting. I would much prefer to lie down in a horizontal tube. You can probably fit just as many passengers while they can at least sleep during the trip. And you get privacy as you shut the cover over your head. And in an emergency, eject the tube like a torpedo . Ok, the last ine might be cookoo. But still… Imagine a flying capsule hotel and tell me you don't want it.

  15. @carloscastano2454

    April 4, 2024 at 11:39 am

    Being an airline traveller most of my life, it's so sad to see how things have changed for the worse.

    There are some airlines that ( literally) are not capable of offering you a small bottle of water or a small cup of coffee.

    But prices have not being lowered after the pandemic; they might even got slightly higher.

    Another chapter is ground personel and airport service: simply terrible.

    I try to fly as little as possible and use other means of transportation.

    But ( back in the day) it used to be a very pleasant experience.

  16. @olentangy74

    April 4, 2024 at 11:39 am

    I flew a lot in the 70’s and 80’s, domestically and internationally. It was truly a different era for air travel. The 747 was the standard for international flights, inflight movies, full meals, blankets and pillows for the asking, and flight attendants who seemed like they actually enjoyed their jobs.
    I once caught a red eye flight from LA to Dayton Ohio on a TWA DC-10. The plane was perhaps 1/3 full. We boarded and people sat wherever they wanted. People were taking whole middle sections and raising up the armrests so they could lay down with blankets and pillows to sleep all night. Some snacks were served, the lights lowered so we could sleep.
    I’ll never see that again. Today I’ll drive unless I have to fly for times sake.

  17. @Did_you_know_that.

    April 4, 2024 at 11:39 am

    Well. This is what happens when people sob when the tickets get expensive. The airlines listened, but still need to make money. So you end up getting your comforts cut, to cut the costs down.

  18. @wolfmantroy6601

    April 4, 2024 at 11:39 am

    In 1986 a flight flight from Seattle to Dutch Harbor AK was $600 one way. Today that same flight can be had for $600 one way at its cheapest. In 1986 a new F-250 pickup was $15k. When everyone can afford to fly the experience will not be as pleasant.

  19. @johnbull5394

    April 4, 2024 at 11:39 am

    It is complicated. Actually (disclosure) I'm against flying, usually, as it's a very wasteful use of fuel (and emissions).

    So fuller planes are less inefficient, but they are also cheaper which has equalled more flight in the mainstream which has made for more travel and pollution overall, but, individually, they are less inefficient. Weird, huh?

    While I'm all in favour of minimum standards being upheld (for example, restaurants need to be cleaned, retired vets cannot open a small surgery in their outhouses), regulating flying simply to make it glamorous doesn't really seem like a good thing, so in this case, deregulation seems to make sense, if only to make flying cheaper for those people who perhaps really 'need' to do so.

  20. @acmelka

    April 4, 2024 at 11:39 am

    I was in a middle seat in coach trans pacific and the fat guy next to me was flowing over the arm rest, BUT he let me sleep on his right breast, isn't that glamourous

  21. @jpk1700

    April 4, 2024 at 11:39 am

    Its a net positive for me. Imagine the number of people who can now do national and international business on an otherwise small budget. International collaborations that became possible to give us other innovative conveniences we have today.

  22. @Gizathecat2

    April 4, 2024 at 11:39 am

    Yeah, I agree with the other folks chiming in about how air travel is like riding a Greyhound bus with wings. My husband will never fly again. We have a travel trailer and an F150 to pull it. It’s our hotel room we take with us. Yes flying can be a major nuisance, headache, etc, but to me flying is a means to an end. It ain’t glamorous, but it gets you there.

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