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The Internet is Worse Than Ever – Now What?

Kurzgesagt – In a Nutshell | April 2, 2024
The Internet is Worse Than Ever – Now What?

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  1. @ismaharry

    April 2, 2024 at 12:57 pm

    The annoying thing is that we are all aware of this toxicity and burden, but really we don't take any action just to prevent for some least. This is sad, but also the bitter reality of today. Anyway, we are all under influence of social media, and we cannotdo anything about it unless we assess it in a way that would benefit us.

  2. @Arboriamusic

    April 2, 2024 at 12:57 pm

    ‘nonsense clown’ … ‘oh yeah ‘ … Gino certainly knows he is a tool! … but yon Honker Gino Portes, … has enough slope on it to project Eddie the Eagle into record breaking Ski jump territory! … oh yeah!

  3. @28anahita

    April 2, 2024 at 12:57 pm

    umm yes, but social media is the only place where there's truth beyond mainstream media- truth about palestine? Actual video from soldiers, from journalists and others. The truth is because of the political chokehold we're increasingly in- social media is increasingly the only 'free' space. Also, the timing of this video is interesting considering the news cycle.

  4. @user-ik9rf7yg4d

    April 2, 2024 at 12:57 pm

    소셜커머스 소셜미디어 소셜 네트워크 등은 현대인의 알고리즘에 과연 얼마나 도움이 될까 한마디로 종국의 결과는 지식의 목마름을 얼마나 충족시키데 그 가치가 있어며 과거의 소설 인터넷 잡지를 통틀어도 알고리즘에 다가가기 힘들 때도 있었다 예를 들어 지구의 멸종에서 지진과 화산이 주로 멸종을 초래 하였으나 공룡의 멸종은 특별하게 자기장이 자전축의 변화로 운석의 충돌로 공룡의 멸종을 맞이하였으며 자전축과 자기장의 관계는 서술하지 못한다 이것 처럼 지진과 화산의 관계에서 운석과 같은 한방이 효과가 크며 인간은 강력한 이 한방에 길들여진 시대를 살며 과거와 같은 소설 인터넷 잡지가 아닌 소셜커머스 소셜 네트워크 소셜 미디어를 탐독한다 알고리즘이란 본래 사람 이름에서 유래한 것이며 이것이 현대인의 소셜 미디어 와 같은 신 문화가 생기면서 자리잡은 것이다 무분별한 정보 홍수 속에 가짜 뉴스와 같은 것도 정보며 그려나 이러한 것을 잘 걸려서 나만의 정보로 만드는 기술과 노력이 필요하다

  5. @rdpillz

    April 2, 2024 at 12:57 pm

    Weird how this video doesn't mention hyper polarization from vested interests actively stoking the flames, rage farming and propaganda, all of which takes advantage of what the video is about

  6. @kanrup5199

    April 2, 2024 at 12:57 pm

    woa Kurzgesagt, you made a sane video.
    (little hint?) My suggestion is you make more videos like this, and less like 'where your disembodied brain is hallucinating the whole universe – cos youknow…science…'.

  7. @das6109

    April 2, 2024 at 12:57 pm

    It's two fold. Most people will see more dissenting (and strongly dissenting) opinions online then in real life that is true. But you'll also hear the most heinous stuff said online and affirmed immediately by people in that same group. It does indeed foster extremism and hatred. There are many communities where you get to see it first hand, where the things that are upvoted or liked are borderline sociopathic. When those groups also heavily moderate to shut down dissenting view points it creates a place where people can hate even more and caricaturize 'the enemy' as holding the worst viewpoints imaginable, while never challenging the often really messed up stuff they're upvoting. This creates the 'safe' internet where even your most insane takes will be met with applause by others drinking some particular brand of koolaid, and the 'opposing' internet is mostly experienced through the worst of bad examples correctly highlighted as such (which you were good to point out). People can end up both normalizing and applauding terrible people on their team, while more objectively looking at the terrible examples of some other side which will rightfully be presented to them as terrible (or when more content to hatewatch is needed can be exaggerated, misquoted, or outright fabricated). It's a great recipe for dopamine rush and addiction. You get the joy of always being the better person, getting encouraged by your peers and can feel you really see the world for how it is creating less personal uncertainty, while still being presented with tons of content to feed your righteous anger. I do wonder just how badly this system and the people exploiting it for financial gain have damaged politics and even just human community on a broad scale.

    By comparison Youtube generally leans pretty neutral, probably because everyone uses it, and because any ideological moderation isn't anywhere near as intense or as community based. It has the added benefit that you don't need hot takes to get engagement here, just produce something interesting enough to earn watch time and get a bit lucky. I think this video really undersells how badly echo chamber type situations accelerate extremism though. Either that or I got really lucky to have family and friends who don't speak in anywhere near the same terms (and who have given me no reason to believe they're secretly hateful) about other groups of people, compared to what I routinely find in online discourse on basically every other social media platform. Even as someone who staunchly avoids interacting with hate content (got off most social media ages ago), but even just brushing into it reading news you see just how bad and downright hateful most discourse is now. Makes me nostalgic for forums, where more than just a shared interest / community, you actually had some accountability because people would remember you and call you out on just lying or misrepresenting people. Trust meant something in some pockets of the early internet, and unsurprisingly a system where you need to be trusted with pretty light moderation (say awful stuff get banned but otherwise alright) leads to a lot more constructive and less hateful discussion.

  8. @mr.andmrs.linnenbom6667

    April 2, 2024 at 12:57 pm

    I never thought I’d disagree with you Kurzgesagt, but…. I concede that the human brain, like any complex system, has its limitations and vulnerabilities. But, I don’t think it’s accurate or helpful to label the human brain as "stupid" universally. It’s true there are a lot of stupid people out there, and even the smartest people say and do stupid things sometimes. But, the human brain is incredibly complex and capable. It's the most sophisticated organ known to us, responsible for consciousness, intelligence, and emotions. I would argue that, despite their limitations, Shakespeare, Beethoven, and Einstein did not have “stupid brains”.

    Sometimes, cognitive biases or errors in judgment do lead some people to make decisions that might seem irrational or counterproductive. However, these cognitive biases often stem from other factors rather than inherent "stupidity." There are, after all, individual differences in cognitive ability, and life experiences can have a big influence on how effectively an individual’s brain functions in the enormous variety of situations in which human beings find themselves.

  9. @alexs29

    April 2, 2024 at 12:57 pm

    "You must change yourself, don't change the world." Isn't this the same mentality that oil and plastic companies pushed on consumers in regards to pollution? That it's a "you" problem, so "just recycle?"

  10. @omgitzpaige2013

    April 2, 2024 at 12:57 pm

    this also explains to me why it feels so different that i’m young enough that i don’t remember a time before the internet, but old enough that i remember pre-social media internet. at least like mainstream social media and it being talked about like in the news.

  11. @czechmydubs9379

    April 2, 2024 at 12:57 pm

    I’m not sure that removing online town squares is a good thing really… Keeping everyone separated into niche ideological communities is good as long as they’re exposed to other viewpoints (which usually they aren’t)

  12. @Deadliermlg

    April 2, 2024 at 12:57 pm

    We used to bury shithead influencers if they start doing something abnormal or be a complete asshole in general, sure that still exists, but these days the majority are just more accepting to be influenced by horrendous idols. It's not what it used to be and it's getting worse and worse.

  13. @MuTSoftLight

    April 2, 2024 at 12:57 pm

    its something similar i keep saying alot that resembles the last point you make on that we are simply not ready for it and some speration is a good thing and i get flagged for it all the time as the evil bad nazi guy when i say that i prefer to live with my own people. ''uh thats racist you dumb..'' how is that?

    i dont hate people that are different or have different views, but its a matter of fact we are not that well compatible to live together 24/7. if you put 30 people from 30 countries with 30 different languages, worldviews and believes into the same room with only 20 chairs in it, what exactly do you expect to happen?

    different countries and regions of the world, people are raised by such different worldviews and ethnics, that its simply impossible for everyone to be compatible. especially in a short term timespan and especially if its FORCED upon people. if i decide to live with certain people that are different to me, it happens on my own term so i know what i put myself into. but if i will get a bunch of people that are all fundamentally different as neighbors and i am FORCED to be compatible even tho you are not, thats an issue.

    and no: the fact that i dont want to live with a person from the other side of the world i cant communicate with because they speak a different language, and who share different values and worldviews and ethnics than i do does NOT mean, that i hate them or i am a racist. i just dont want to live with them.

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